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		<title>By: Paul Zies</title>
		<link>http://www.manandmule.com/gear/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Zies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicissitude, by definition means one of the sudden or unexpected changes or shifts often encountered in one&#039;s life. I applaud your effort to encounter as many as you can when you hit the trail in a few weeks. It is rare for anyone to take on something as grand in scale and ambition as you have. You are grabbing life by the gonads and leading it where you wish to roam. It sounds painfully contrite; nonetheless, I am proud of you. Do find a way to post a &quot;picture of the day&quot; as you move along the trail for I am sure that you&#039;ll find at the end of a trip like this one they will act as defining milestones that the words expressed in your blog will have missed. Go man, go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicissitude, by definition means one of the sudden or unexpected changes or shifts often encountered in one&#8217;s life. I applaud your effort to encounter as many as you can when you hit the trail in a few weeks. It is rare for anyone to take on something as grand in scale and ambition as you have. You are grabbing life by the gonads and leading it where you wish to roam. It sounds painfully contrite; nonetheless, I am proud of you. Do find a way to post a &#8220;picture of the day&#8221; as you move along the trail for I am sure that you&#8217;ll find at the end of a trip like this one they will act as defining milestones that the words expressed in your blog will have missed. Go man, go!</p>
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		<title>By: bronze</title>
		<link>http://www.manandmule.com/gear/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>bronze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 16:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad the site was of use to you; such was my intention in creating it.  Feel free to contact me if you have any specific questions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad the site was of use to you; such was my intention in creating it.  Feel free to contact me if you have any specific questions!</p>
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		<title>By: david s.</title>
		<link>http://www.manandmule.com/gear/comment-page-1/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>david s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent page. I came across it because i was looking into a similar adventure, by far the best information so far for a long term expedition. thx to you and to all who replied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent page. I came across it because i was looking into a similar adventure, by far the best information so far for a long term expedition. thx to you and to all who replied.</p>
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		<title>By: David Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not done the trail, but I have spent a lot of time hunting along various parts of it in Oregon over the years, In the section between Crater Lake and Mount Batchelor there are a LOT of cats, and bears and I have seen Wolves twice west of the Steen’s (I don&#039;t care what the biologists say, I&#039;ve seen them in the wild in CO and WY at 10 yards I know what they look like).

There are also a few wild burro&#039;s near enough to get interesting near the CA border. (They are more common towards Alvore, but if its really dry they can work over to the west)

Take a bottle of the purple magic from a vet supplier, and some sterile surgical catgut. My experience with horses and mules is they have a singular talent for nasty gashes from tree limbs, barbed wire, and some of the most amazing other stuff. The ability to put in a couple clean stitches is invaluable, and some horse vets will let you watch them work and teach you some emergency techniques. Also carry a list of farriers along the way, most are certified to give anesthetic to horses and they have the gear to help you. 

You have been to trail farriers school right?  Take a set of pre fitted shoes for the mule.

Have a good time it sounds like a great trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not done the trail, but I have spent a lot of time hunting along various parts of it in Oregon over the years, In the section between Crater Lake and Mount Batchelor there are a LOT of cats, and bears and I have seen Wolves twice west of the Steen’s (I don&#8217;t care what the biologists say, I&#8217;ve seen them in the wild in CO and WY at 10 yards I know what they look like).</p>
<p>There are also a few wild burro&#8217;s near enough to get interesting near the CA border. (They are more common towards Alvore, but if its really dry they can work over to the west)</p>
<p>Take a bottle of the purple magic from a vet supplier, and some sterile surgical catgut. My experience with horses and mules is they have a singular talent for nasty gashes from tree limbs, barbed wire, and some of the most amazing other stuff. The ability to put in a couple clean stitches is invaluable, and some horse vets will let you watch them work and teach you some emergency techniques. Also carry a list of farriers along the way, most are certified to give anesthetic to horses and they have the gear to help you. </p>
<p>You have been to trail farriers school right?  Take a set of pre fitted shoes for the mule.</p>
<p>Have a good time it sounds like a great trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Grannyhiker</title>
		<link>http://www.manandmule.com/gear/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Grannyhiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice nothing on your list for your mule!   

I grew up horsepacking but that was in the 1940&#039;s and 1950&#039;s, about a century too late.  I can tell you that when you take an animal along, you won&#039;t be &quot;hiking your own hike&quot; but hiking your animal&#039;s hike!   That&#039;s true whether the animal is a horse, mule or dog.   You have to keep the mule healthy, well-fed and shod.  Your stopping places will be dictated by where the mule can graze and have water.  If he goes lame, you&#039;re done until he recovers.  Be really sure he&#039;s vaccinated against West Nile.  My-daughter-the-veterinarian says it has become widespread in California and has seen quite a few unvaccinated horses die.  

You&#039;ll probably want to do some research on equine gear.  A surprising amount of horse tack is little changed since the 19th century.  I know that in the 19th century, hobbles and halters were generally made of braided rawhide.  At least in the later 19th century ropes were made from manila, Mexican maguey or hemp.  When we started out (1945) there were no manila ropes (manila came from the Philippines, and World War II ended only 2 days before we started) so we used hemp.   Cotton and nylon rope came along quite a bit later.  You&#039;ll have to find out when these materials started being used for rope.   My oldest son is a Civil War re-enactor, although he&#039;s been out of it the past two years while being stationed in Central Asia.  However, that period is later than what you&#039;re looking for.   A better source might be to research early 19th century practices in California and Mexico.  

One &quot;modern&quot; item (like the alcohol stove) you&#039;ll have to take is weed-free horse feed.   This is required by US Forest Service regulations.  Plain old oats (what we used) is now illegal.  Grazing is limited, and you can&#039;t expect the mule to survive on only grass anyway.   At least half of what your mule carries will be his feed and gear, not yours.

Another &quot;modern&quot; item you&#039;ll need for the Sierra is bear-proof panniers.  Google &quot;Sierra Wild Bear&quot; to find out what&#039;s approved.  I don&#039;t know if you could get by with regular panniers, using a hikers&#039; bear canister for your food.  It may be that you&#039;ll have to bear-proof your mule&#039;s food as well.  If that&#039;s the case, you&#039;ll definitely have to use the metal panniers.  

When we started horsepacking, my parents bought used gear.  I don&#039;t know when the regular wooden sawbuck pack saddle was invented, but I know from Charles M. Russell paintings that it was around in the later 19th century.  My parents got a set of homemade cowhide box panniers--with the hair on the cowhide.  They were already very well-used but continued to hold up until the late 1950&#039;s when they finally were bucked off a horse one too many times.   I don&#039;t know when canvas panniers became common, and early ones may have been made from rawhide.  Note that pack animals like to bash the panniers into trees and have been known to try to roll with the pack on, so if you have to carry any breakable items, box panniers would be better.  If you have to use bear-proof panniers, they certainly will protect the contents from abuse by the mule, too.  

Re the lantern:  my parents had a folding candle lantern with isinglass (thin sheets of mica) windows.  I know the use of isinglass goes back a few hundred years.  I doubt such a thing still exists in these days of plastic, but you could check antique stores.  I don&#039;t think we ever took a flashlight until the 1950&#039;s when someone gave my parents a battery lantern for Christmas. 

I&#039;m really excited about your trip and will be following it closely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice nothing on your list for your mule!   </p>
<p>I grew up horsepacking but that was in the 1940&#8217;s and 1950&#8217;s, about a century too late.  I can tell you that when you take an animal along, you won&#8217;t be &#8220;hiking your own hike&#8221; but hiking your animal&#8217;s hike!   That&#8217;s true whether the animal is a horse, mule or dog.   You have to keep the mule healthy, well-fed and shod.  Your stopping places will be dictated by where the mule can graze and have water.  If he goes lame, you&#8217;re done until he recovers.  Be really sure he&#8217;s vaccinated against West Nile.  My-daughter-the-veterinarian says it has become widespread in California and has seen quite a few unvaccinated horses die.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll probably want to do some research on equine gear.  A surprising amount of horse tack is little changed since the 19th century.  I know that in the 19th century, hobbles and halters were generally made of braided rawhide.  At least in the later 19th century ropes were made from manila, Mexican maguey or hemp.  When we started out (1945) there were no manila ropes (manila came from the Philippines, and World War II ended only 2 days before we started) so we used hemp.   Cotton and nylon rope came along quite a bit later.  You&#8217;ll have to find out when these materials started being used for rope.   My oldest son is a Civil War re-enactor, although he&#8217;s been out of it the past two years while being stationed in Central Asia.  However, that period is later than what you&#8217;re looking for.   A better source might be to research early 19th century practices in California and Mexico.  </p>
<p>One &#8220;modern&#8221; item (like the alcohol stove) you&#8217;ll have to take is weed-free horse feed.   This is required by US Forest Service regulations.  Plain old oats (what we used) is now illegal.  Grazing is limited, and you can&#8217;t expect the mule to survive on only grass anyway.   At least half of what your mule carries will be his feed and gear, not yours.</p>
<p>Another &#8220;modern&#8221; item you&#8217;ll need for the Sierra is bear-proof panniers.  Google &#8220;Sierra Wild Bear&#8221; to find out what&#8217;s approved.  I don&#8217;t know if you could get by with regular panniers, using a hikers&#8217; bear canister for your food.  It may be that you&#8217;ll have to bear-proof your mule&#8217;s food as well.  If that&#8217;s the case, you&#8217;ll definitely have to use the metal panniers.  </p>
<p>When we started horsepacking, my parents bought used gear.  I don&#8217;t know when the regular wooden sawbuck pack saddle was invented, but I know from Charles M. Russell paintings that it was around in the later 19th century.  My parents got a set of homemade cowhide box panniers&#8211;with the hair on the cowhide.  They were already very well-used but continued to hold up until the late 1950&#8217;s when they finally were bucked off a horse one too many times.   I don&#8217;t know when canvas panniers became common, and early ones may have been made from rawhide.  Note that pack animals like to bash the panniers into trees and have been known to try to roll with the pack on, so if you have to carry any breakable items, box panniers would be better.  If you have to use bear-proof panniers, they certainly will protect the contents from abuse by the mule, too.  </p>
<p>Re the lantern:  my parents had a folding candle lantern with isinglass (thin sheets of mica) windows.  I know the use of isinglass goes back a few hundred years.  I doubt such a thing still exists in these days of plastic, but you could check antique stores.  I don&#8217;t think we ever took a flashlight until the 1950&#8217;s when someone gave my parents a battery lantern for Christmas. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m really excited about your trip and will be following it closely!</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try a small tin candle lantern. They hold up quite well for what I do.</description>
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		<title>By: bronze</title>
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		<dc:creator>bronze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I think the lantern may be going away...  Based on the feedback I&#039;ve been receiving it seems like unnecessary weight, volume, and hazard.  I have concern about candles blowing out though, and I may find that I need some light at times during the night.  I&#039;m also considering bringing a little video camera to record journals and fireside chats and such and they might not be able to cope with candle light.  I did test out a Flip Mino camera with just a candle the other night and it barely hung in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I think the lantern may be going away&#8230;  Based on the feedback I&#8217;ve been receiving it seems like unnecessary weight, volume, and hazard.  I have concern about candles blowing out though, and I may find that I need some light at times during the night.  I&#8217;m also considering bringing a little video camera to record journals and fireside chats and such and they might not be able to cope with candle light.  I did test out a Flip Mino camera with just a candle the other night and it barely hung in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would advise against the Dietz style kerosene lantern for two reasons. Weight of fuel and possible spilling of fuel contaminating food stuffs,
Also that style of lantern did not come about until 1867.
I would go with beeswax or sterine candles. They are lighter and take up less space.
Good Luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would advise against the Dietz style kerosene lantern for two reasons. Weight of fuel and possible spilling of fuel contaminating food stuffs,<br />
Also that style of lantern did not come about until 1867.<br />
I would go with beeswax or sterine candles. They are lighter and take up less space.<br />
Good Luck</p>
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		<title>By: LYNCH</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, your a crazy man, have a great time on this trip!</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Mcleish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Mcleish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok Bronze, lose the gourds and get a real canteen. they will break, promise. plenty of good period canteens on the market. i already told you what i think of fuel in the woods. Yarrow and Plantain are your friends. as is soaproot. beeswax candle can serve as chapstick. bring lard if you feel the need for tallow. i&#039;ve never needed it. those sheepskins will be hard to dry out. i just use two wool blankets. you&#039;ll harden up in a few days and be able to sleep anywhere on anything. use your saddle pad for insulation.
don&#039;t skimp on meds for historical correctness
neosporin is a good choice and silk thread for stitches. it will work for you and the mule. you will cut yourself, promise.
three knives, one knife can get lost. and a folding knife stuffed somewhere. good for cleaning fingernails. make sure you have a mirror. char cloth not paper and bring extra 100% cotton cloth. use for char and bandages. bring at least two steel strikers and several good flints. lots of tinder, and use local tinder keeping yours for the bad times. keep the steels in different places same with the knives. i&#039;m done for now. Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok Bronze, lose the gourds and get a real canteen. they will break, promise. plenty of good period canteens on the market. i already told you what i think of fuel in the woods. Yarrow and Plantain are your friends. as is soaproot. beeswax candle can serve as chapstick. bring lard if you feel the need for tallow. i&#8217;ve never needed it. those sheepskins will be hard to dry out. i just use two wool blankets. you&#8217;ll harden up in a few days and be able to sleep anywhere on anything. use your saddle pad for insulation.<br />
don&#8217;t skimp on meds for historical correctness<br />
neosporin is a good choice and silk thread for stitches. it will work for you and the mule. you will cut yourself, promise.<br />
three knives, one knife can get lost. and a folding knife stuffed somewhere. good for cleaning fingernails. make sure you have a mirror. char cloth not paper and bring extra 100% cotton cloth. use for char and bandages. bring at least two steel strikers and several good flints. lots of tinder, and use local tinder keeping yours for the bad times. keep the steels in different places same with the knives. i&#8217;m done for now. Bob</p>
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